Monday, June 11, 2012

It's not me, it's you.

I read an article a couple of months ago about parents taking out loans to send their children to kindergarten.  I wanted to write a post about it then, but self preservation forced me to immediately file it in the I can't think about this right now or I will walk to the Brooklyn Bridge and jump off sector of my brain.

I really wanted to believe this was just a myth, but upon further investigation- it ends up that it is all true.  Parents are paying $20,000 a year to send their kids to grade school.  I thought this was just another alien behavior of the uber-rich, but unfortunately- it's not.  Middle class Americans are taking out tens of thousands of dollars in loans to make sure that their kids will be keeping up with the proverbial Joneses.

Holy shit.

Frightening.


That is a hell of a lot of money to spend, before your child even gets to college.  What happens when you've shelled out $250,000 for Sally's early education, and she decides that she doesn't want to go to college?  What then?  I'm guessing that not going to college won't even be a possibility for her, will it?  Or that there will be some disowning going on.  What happens when you are paying $20,000 a year for your children to go to grade school, and they have a hard time learning their multiplication tables? What if they fall behind a little?  How much pressure are we going to be putting on our kids to perform?

I see some insane behavior all around me already- and Lucien's peers aren't even two yet.  Dance classes. Gym classes.  Preschool, at age two.  I didn't even know that existed.  We really have to get started potty training because the preschool won't take them if they're not.  Jesus.  This I don't understand.  For what you are paying there should definitely be some ass wiping going on.

There is competitive preschool in my neighborhood.  Yes, I have actually heard those two words- competitive and preschool- strung together, when someone was referring to this place.  It is called the Co-op School.  The tuition is $1250 a month.  Add to that a non-refundable application fee of $50.  And a non-refundable administrative enrollment fee of $100.  I don't even know what that is.  Then there is the monthly cleaning and enrichment fee of $15-25.  I almost forgot the membership fee of $750- so yeah, there's that, too.

Okay, so that's 10 months at $1250 a month.  Plus all of those extra fees, which amounts to a grand total of $13,650.  Thirteen thousand, six hundred, and fifty dollars.  For one year of preschool.  I forgot to mention that the "co-operative structure" means you also have to provide classroom snacks twice a year, participate in school space clean up once a year, participate in fundraising tasks,  serve actively on a committee,  attend general membership meetings, and have an active listserv membership.

Oh, and there's no sliding scale.  We want to enrich the lives of our children, but we definitely don't want them to interact with the pre-K riff raff.

This brings us to the source of a lot of my anxiety.  I obviously cannot afford this.  So, have I done something wrong?  Did I have the right to have a child, that apparently I cannot afford?  Or is everyone else just out of their mother f-ing minds?  I'm obviously opting for the latter.

It's not me, it's you.

We all want the best for our children, including myself.  But I don't see how believing the hype that we can only purchase the things that are best for our kids, is doing anything to enrich the lives of anyone- least of all our children.  Is our public school system such a lost cause that we can't push for legislation that will improve what our tax dollars are already paying for?  Or have we just been so let down by our government's services for so long that we have forgotten that education used to be one of them?

I'm going to go color and eat peanut butter crackers with my child now.   For free.

17 comments:

  1. WOW! $13,650! That's insane... luckily where I live things are quite different.

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  2. holy eff balls. Abby's preschool is $125/mo including snacks.... mind you it's only for 6 hours a week and she brings home pieces of paper with scribbles and bits glued to them (in amongst some pretty adorable teacher assisted crafts) and she still can't write a "y" properly to spell her name... but she loves it- I love her teachers and I wish they could come home with me and toddler-whisper her like they do in school.... I couldn't imagine paying over $13000 for school- my Mom pays her school fees already- yea we're that poor...

    You bring up this fear that I have as well- I can't afford to have my children either... we're in debt just buying clothes cool enough to keep up with their friends- something I swore I'd never do... how does it happen? Why do I feel like less of a parent because I can't afford to put Ab into 3 different camps over the summer? It's such a terrible feeling- but I'm the one giving into it! I'm going to go cry about this in the bathroom at work...

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  3. Three words: What. The. Eff.
    I obviously don't have kids, but I'm not an idiot and know that if I had them, I would want the best for them. However, I would want "the best" to include basic necessities and experiences, not purchased memories and manufactured things. This is another reason I'm glad I was born when I was, when going to school was about the kids and learning and fun and not competition and gearing up to be the best at everything only to put a feather in the cap of some snooty-ass parent.

    Sorry. I just wish kids could be kids. Whether people can afford to have the kids they do is another story and one I'm not qualified to talk about. But I can say that I feel sorry for these kids. The message is effed up.

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  4. Yass! Hit me off with some of them extra pnut buttr crackers, pl. Horror of Horrors... my 4 yr old doesnt like peanut butter or ice cream!? WTFIUWT?
    Who runs that 15K per pre k... NYU? My son's chinatown pre-school runs about as much for 5 months as 1 at said money hole. Sharp staff noticed a couple idiosyncrasies in my boy's development and w/in 2mos. he was/is receiving 10 hrs a week of 100% free special ed for fine motor OT & PT that at large would run 2-3K a month! Bless you Gov. Mario Coumo for all you did to help kids in NY St. The apparatus he put in place is why all state kids get free health care to 18yrs & the special ed referenced above. Nice blog work Go-rilla.

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  5. I once worked at a child care centre in an upscale area considered to be THE place for children to go. The facilities were amazing, admittedly. But inside it was just like any other place. Regardless, it was insane what these parents would do to ensure that their kids went to this place and stayed there. It was evident that they sacrificed a lot (though some more than others,) so their kids could have the "privilege" of going there.

    I remember one mother in tears because she was pregnant with her second child and couldn't afford to still send her oldest there while she was at home with the baby. Her words were, "But if we leave, she might never get back in and then we're back at square one!" Really? She was 3. Her life isn't over.

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  6. $13650????? Really? And here I was crying about the almost $700 I pay now. What is going on? The problem here is that public education just isn't measuring up. So you have mommy and daddy panicking about how Jr can get ahead. So this leads them to think that a $13650 DAYCARE for their 3 year old is a good thing. The BEST thing. Because we all want what's best for our kids right? But I mean really?? REALLY???? High school. I might could see, but that much money at age 3???? SMH.

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  7. Bet you can find a kick ass public school for free! I had some freak out moments about pre-school/kindergarten but once I got over it I realized that it doesn't matter how rich/poor your kids are, genetics and a loving family are more important. There are kids from "low income public school backgrounds" who get into Harvard just like the ones who spent hundreds of thoughts of dollars on an education so HA. Keep coloring and eating PB crackers and offering up cool amazing family related memories and Lucien will be just dandy!

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  8. There are some free pre K programs in the public schools-but of course there are waiting lists and such. Oh well. He's not even two yet, so I don't think I'm going to climb that mountain right now. If he has to be home schooled for preschool, so be it.

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  9. Holy crap. What happened? Although I want the best for my child, I realize that sometimes going without is better. Society has totally failed in this area. We spend thousands of dollars on school, clothes, toys, candy and whatever else they want because we want to give our kids "the best", and what are they learning? I don't think most of these parents realize that children benefit much more from their parents' presence than they do from their parents' money. Just be there for your kids: listening, teaching life lessons, disciplining, playing with, and most of all loving them. I wonder how much time those parents who are part of that co-op actually spend with their children. Sounds like they are kept pretty busy with the fundraising and the meetings and such, not to mention working to pay for their tuition! It's sad really. And like you mentioned, Maria, no child should have that amount of pressure on them to perform. I feel like it's almost setting them up for failure. Good post Maria... hard to believe there's so many crazy people out there!

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  10. Wow!! I've heard of this but thought it was a myth myself. I feel so blessed to live in an area with nationally ranked public schools. I paid roughly around $200.00 late year to send Ava to Kindergarten. I'm pretty sure I'm guessing on the high side. They also offer free and reduced meals year round. Yes even in the summer. And you don't even need to show proof of need. How do people afford $13000? I'm getting an ulcer just thinking of it all. Maybe Kansas isn't so bad after all.

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  11. Yes, in fact I paid more than that for child care when my son was 2. And I did not do it so he would learn inappropriate academic skills which is NOT what a quality Early Learning program does. I did it to make sure he was in a school where the teachers stayed, understood child development, planned activities to promote his development, supported his social/emotional development, and saw themselves as professionals because they were paid a decent wage, received benefits, and were well-educated. If you would not work for less than that than do not ask an educator to.

    And while you do not need to pay that kind of money for preschool or child care and can offer them those things at home, if you work and want quality you pay for it. Early Childhood (birth to age 8) is the most important time in a child's life- the most brain development happens, they develop the skills to navigate social situations, to respond appropriately to their emotions, to begin to understand how things work, develop the foundations for literacy and math, and being critical thinking skills. For more information, read this link- http://www.smartbeginnings.org/home/aboutus/earlychildhoodbenefits.aspx

    But to get those benefits it costs money which is why there are calls for investment in Early Education since most people cannot afford to pay that kind of money. We are middle-class and scrapped to make sure we provided the best start for our children because we value education and understand that it is not free.

    Finally let me say, the ignorance about child development and early education in this article is astounding. If you were going to bother writing about something you should have at least done the research and knew what you were talking about.

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  12. I'm really sorry that my idyllic visions of my tax dollars being used towards education offends you so much.

    You seem to be okay with the fact that early childhood education has evolved into a pay for play system. I am not. If you don't think upwards of $13,000 is an exorbitant amount of money to pay for preschool- I don't really know how to respond to that.

    Also, since this is a blog, and I am the author- it should be pretty obvious that whatever is written here is my opinion. I never claimed to be an expert in early childhood education. But I am certainly allowed to have an opinion about it- and I can express that opinion about it here as much as i fucking want.

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  13. To ecereflections --- Maria never once mentioned that she didn't believe in early childhood education! The point here is that it should not be pay-for-play system which I agree.

    Here are my comments:
    1-I live in a suburb of DC and daycare/preschool easily runs $1200+/month. My child is in home daycare (a little under $800/month) and I will keep him there until he enters PUBLIC school (he's only 18 months old so we've got some time).
    2-While these are critical years (as abcmouse.com tells me all the time), preschools and formal early childhood education have not been around forever. And past generations did just fine. People still won awards, invented things, became president, etc. So I think without the formal education, our kids will do just fine.
    3-I firmly believe, and have seen as proof, that the smarter/more educated your child is early on...the harder it is for you/teachers to keep them occupied at school. So you always end up having to pay for an elite private school because your child is years ahead of the curve. I don't think that's good for them - or your pocket.
    4-The system is what needs work. In my area, ALL public prek and headstart programs are for disadvantaged kids. Meaning there are income requirments which my family doesn't meet. So if we want our child to get a head start - we have to enroll in a private preschool program. Let's keep in mind I currently have $11 in my checking account and am nowhere near payday! So, while on paper, we don't meet income requirments, it's actually quite the oppostie once all the bills - and daycare - are paid for!
    5-Maria, you rock and I hope you don't let anyone ruin your day! Your post was very well put and I'm sure shocking to many folks not living in NYC (or DC). I grew up somewhere with no private schools and maybe a preschool at a church (I didn't attend). So for me, public school WILL be the only option for my child. College is expensive enough! Until then...

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    1. Public school will be our only option as well- if we can get into one of the pre-K programs. If not...

      I was just having this conversation with a friend of mine yesterday. It's amazing that none of us had these types of schools when we were kids, yet somehow we are not all walking around drooling on ourselves. Go figure.

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  14. I can't even imagine paying that much for preschool. Well, I can imagine it, but I can imagine paper cutting my eyeball too. It doesn't mean I want to. You obviously hit a nerve with eceflections, and I think her point got lost in her overly defensive response.

    There are some good things to be said about investing in the quality of early childhood education our kids receive. They're the same points I make about our underfunded public schools, and underpaid public school teachers. A competitive wage brings in competitive people. Still, there is this thing called the law of diminishing returns. In this case, you can only throw so much money at something, and eventually it will stop making a difference in the quality. At that point, any increases in price are market driven and not quality driven.

    I would be interested to see a peer reviewed study regarding the ROI per student factoring in amount paid for preschool education. I would imagine it caps out a lot lower than 20K per year. And yes... I know it's kind of heartless to think of our kids as human capital, but no one ever gets mad when people say "We're investing in our future." They only get mad when we say, we're spending way too much money on our kids. Hence - ecereflections.

    Anyway, very entertaining and thought provoking post again. The ass wiping line had me laughing out loud (I refuse to abbreviate that).

    John
    www.askyourdadblog.com

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    1. @John- First, thank you for not abbreviating laughing out loud.

      You made a much smarter point than I made, when you said

      "Still, there is this thing called the law of diminishing returns. In this case, you can only throw so much money at something, and eventually it will stop making a difference in the quality. At that point, any increases in price are market driven and not quality driven."

      Yes. That. Totally. Also, it pisses me off when someone basically accuses me of not valuing or understanding education, because the system is broken and I can't pay those ridiculous prices.

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  15. Yeah. I was in Catholic schools my whole life, including my undergrad university. My high school tuition was the same as a year at the University of Washington.

    WTF.

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